I think we could be more patient and go easier on them
I wholeheartedly agree with you on that.
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
I think we could be more patient and go easier on them
I wholeheartedly agree with you on that.
today i was testing my co worker to see if he's really a jw.
with simple things like god bless you when you cough.
asked about his birthday and remember he wished me happy birthday a few months ago.
JYD
Good for you, I'll buy you a beer when we meet up!
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
punk
I think you are right, he bit off more than he could chew.
1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
Isw1961
Welcome to the forum, it is nice to have you here.
You have every right to express you opinions and I am happy that you found this forum to do so. I agree with some of what you say, but not much.
I joined the JWs in 1986 and I honestly believed in what was said and I followed along like a sheep for many years, believing that the GB really had our best interests at heart, only to find out after 29 years that that is not the case.
The things that are wrong far outweigh the good things here is a list of some of the things that bothered me about the organization that caused me to leave:
Child abuse - 2 Witness rule (See "Candace Conti vs Watchtower as an example)
UNO - NGO membership
Environmental pollution issues
Owning shares in companies that deal in weapons
Owning shares in companies that deal in pornography
Intellectual dishonesty
Using mind controlling techniques in their literature and meetings
Flip - flops in teaching
Overlapping generation teaching
the list goes on. Have you tried "www.jwfacts.com" or "www.jwsurvey.org" for information?
It might be a good idea if you did that.
Like I have already said, we are happy to have you on the forum.
tight pants, colored socks, blue shirts, beards, wire -rimmed glasses... .
does anybody remember any thing else that was once or still is proscribed against faithful j-dubs?
when brothers in our kh started wearing different colored shirts rather than white, it caused a great stir and ruckus.
This is how a sister should dress.
tight pants, colored socks, blue shirts, beards, wire -rimmed glasses... .
does anybody remember any thing else that was once or still is proscribed against faithful j-dubs?
when brothers in our kh started wearing different colored shirts rather than white, it caused a great stir and ruckus.
This is how a brother should dress for the hall.
~2300 in attendance.
one day cost of $16,900!.
this was at romeoville, which was built ground up in the 90's and was fully paid for by the illinois circuits!.
for the last few days i was discussing with a colleague of mine at work about the stock market and how some people, even when losing money, they will hold onto their shares because someone said they will rise again.
this may lead to lost opportunities or even losing all their money instead of de-risking and offsetting loses by buying another stock, in other word jumping ship.. this got me thinking about jws (knowing that i am still in).
took one step back and looked at our family and what we have done by sticking to this religion.
D.Furious
It certainly makes sense what you said. I have recently woke and I am now beginning to scramble so that I may have some kind of retirement.
reading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what tatt stands for (?).
any more acronyms that are special to this site?
Here is one I had problems with and had to ask.
Bttt - Back to the top
It is just to put the discussion at the top of the list, without saying anything.
this is just to mention that the same is happening in germany as with other countries, bethel family being reduced by 25%, which means 250 persons, and all the rest of the stuff, laundry etc.. i do not have any special privileged information this is from a german website .
http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/neues-aus-selters/#more-2475.
it is reliable.. there is a letter to the special pioneers which i have translated below:.
This is just to mention that the same is happening in Germany as with other countries, Bethel family being reduced by 25%, which means 250 persons, and all the rest of the stuff, laundry etc.
I do not have any special privileged information this is from a German Website
http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/neues-aus-selters/#more-2475
It is reliable.
There is a letter to the Special Pioneers which I have translated below:
AI: AK October 11, 2015
TO ALL SPECIAL PIONEERS GERMANY
Reducing the number of special pioneers
Dear Brothers,
Many of you have already been serving for decades as special pioneers, and we really appreciate that. Your faithful endurance deserves a sincere praise!
Recently we received statements from the Governing Body announcing a global restructuring in almost every area of the work. This includes how the special pioneers are to be used, which is why some special pioneers have already been asked to continue their ministry as regular pioneers. In order to get an overview of the current overall situation, we ask you to let us know who of you is in such a financial situation, partially or entirely, to look after themselves. This does not necessarily mean leaving the full-time service. We would very much appreciate it, if we receive your answers by 23 October 2015.
Please be assured that completely irrespective of these considerations and future decisions we appreciate your sacrifice greatly. You have made yourselves available for the most important work, which is now being carried out on Earth. This has allowed you to make many very individual experiences with Jehovah. Please never forget these experiences! Surely you join in the words of King David, Psalm 63:5 which says: "I am satisfied with the best and choicest portion," Therefore, you have just the same desire as David went on to say in the verse, "So my mouth will praise you with joy on my lips". We are firmly convinced that Jehovah will always bless your loyalty in the future by supplying you with the necessities (Mat. 6:33; 2 Sam. 22: 26a).
We are happy to mention you in our prayers and ask Jehovah to continue to give you strength and joy that wholehearted service brings (Col. 3:23). Be warmly greeted.
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